The Discovery Channel is Bogus
Originally written Saturday, November 13, 2004
The Discovery Channel can be pretty entertaining, and when I’m home briefly between work and class I sometimes watch 15 or 20 minutes of it while I’m eating. (I like the shows they have about engineering and monster machines.)
Yesterday I watched almost a full program about the “Hutchison Effect”. The Hutchison Effect is supposedly a series of effects (it’s not just one) that a Canadian inventor, John Hutchison, invented. Here’s a summary from a webpage that describes it:
The Hutchison Effect occurs as the result of radio wave interferences in a zone of spatial volume encompassed by high voltage sources, usually a Van de Graff generator, and two or more Tesla coils.
The effects produced include levitation of heavy objects, fusion of dissimilar materials such as metal and wood (exactly as portrayed in the movie, “The Philadelphia Experiment”), the anomalous heating of metals without burning adjacent material, spontaneous fracturing of metals (which separate by sliding in a sideways fashion), and both temporary and permanent changes in the crystalline structure and physical properties of metals.
I was immediately skeptical, just from hearing them talk about it during the beginning of the show. It didn’t help that Hutchison looked a little eccentric, or that he did all of his ‘experiments’ in his apartment using cast-away Navy and Army surplus equipment.
This guy lives in an apartment that has to be seen to be believed, it’s packed chock full of all sorts of crap, although it looks pretty organized. I’m talking wall-to-wall oscilloscopes, digital readouts, metal boxes, dials, knobs, chains and pulleys.
They started showing clips of this “effect” in action, specifically ones that showed its apparent anti-gravity powers. Each clip was a fairly close up shot taken from about 5 feet. They showed a wooden floor (you could see the bottom of a broom sitting on the floor) and a household object sitting on it. The object would then move a little bit and then levitate off the screen! Stuff like nails, a hammer, a wrench, a bowl, a bottle of 7-Up, tin foil, etc.
This was pretty interesting, I thought, but hardly conclusive evidence. I was trying to think up ways that you could make an object “levitate” like that, say, using magnetism, when it showed a very interesting clip. The clip was of a cup of a thick white liquid or syrup, about the consistency of creamy plaster. You could see a glob form at the top of the liquid, then rise out of the cup and go up off the screen! It left behind a spike in the liquid, if you know what I mean – like it globbed upward, and when it separated there was a kind of liquid string pointing straight up.
This had me impressed. How could you make THAT levitate? It’s one thing to fake levitating a piece of tin foil, but that was pretty convincing!
But I was still skeptical. I started trying to think of how you could do this as the show progressed. They then interviewed a guy from a US intelligence agency. They sent a team of 6 or 8 observers up to Canada in the early 70s to do tests and observe this phenomenon (I think the LSD craze permeated into the US military back then too). Well, it didn’t work out too well, because although Hutchison claimed that things happened during these tests, they ONLY happened when the observers weren’t there.
How convenient.
Then Hutchison went on about how he was worried that the US government could be using his invention to create weapons. As he talked, I suddenly realized how he’d faked his levitation videos.
In each case, the wooden floor is NOT actually a floor, it’s just a piece of wood. The videos are taken UPSIDE DOWN. He uses an electromagnet above the piece of wood to hold the object in place, and he’s got the end of a broom stuck on there to give the illusion that it’s a floor. Then, he slowly reduces current to the electromagnet, and the object loosens and then falls. Turned upside down, it looks like the object is actually going UP, not down!
In cases like the pepsi bottle or the white liquid, it would be simple to just put metal in the base of the container and hold it in place that way (the 7-Up bottle was closed, by the way).
The show was ending, and convinced that I would find other skeptics on the Internet, I ran upstairs and looked it up on Google. Well, there’s stuff all over the place, but not really any skeptics, at least none that really talk about how he could have faked his experiments.
Then I found a site that had a different video I hadn’t seen. You can see it right at the top of the page. It looks like a metal object jumping around. Hmmm, I thought – that doesn’t fit in well with my upside-down electromagnet hoax idea. Then I read farther down the page and found this (bolded emphasis mine):
I’ve received a number of messages about the above video-links pointing out that a string is clearly visibly holding up the toy-UFO that Hutchison is experimenting with. I asked John for more information on the purpose of the string, and received the following reply:
“The string is not string but #32-gauge double polythermalized wire on a takeup up reel with 20 to 50000 volts DC. The the main apparatus was turned on, causing the toy plastic ufo to fly all about in amazing gyrations. This was a pretest to gryphon films airing this fall for fox TV. I did not need the extra high voltage 2000 time period so the toy levitated without a high voltage hook up during the filming for gryphon there was a string on the toy no high-voltage dc but interesting movements.” – John Hutchison
This is the most ridiculous explanation I’ve ever heard. Someone sees the string attached to the object, and his excuse is, “no, that’s not a string, it’s a wire?!!! Then he tacks on a pile of mumbo-jumbo to try and mask the fact that he’s bouncing the object around on a wire!
Although videos are easily faked, it would have been easy for him to make the videos a lot harder to criticize. He must have known that people would have a hard time believing that he can levitate objects using some equipment he bought at the neighbourhood surplus store, or that an aging hippie who wears cut-off jean vests has managed to leapfrog ahead of Einstein and NASA. Levitating the object while pouring a glass of water from a pitcher would have been a good demonstration. Or simply standing next to the object. Or showing the object COMING DOWN again – I found that very interesting! The videos don’t show where the objects go, and it doesn’t show them coming back down. I wonder why?
The man is obviously a total charlatan. And I am extremely unimpressed with the Discovery Channel. I realize that they are in the business of entertainment BUT they also claim to educate. Yet there was not a single skeptic or critic on the entire show!
I can’t count the number of times I’ve heard the defense, “it’s true, I saw it on the Discovery Channel” when people are confronted with skepticism about some bizarre claim. The Discovery Channel is BOGUS, people!
If you want to read some skeptical views on a variety of hoaxes, frauds, and outlandish claims, go to www.skepdic.com, which includes a criticism of the famous Philadelphia Experiment mentioned near the beginning of this post.
Videos
January 29, 2006 – added some videos that purport to show Hutchison Effect.
October 20th, 2007 at 9:42 pm
Hello John,
We are moving forward with your show and insisting it be made while we have this delay, or we will change representation by CAA. I will let you know what take’s place.
If you have photos of your new levitations. Please send so I may impress others.
Thank you, Robert
October 20th, 2007 at 9:43 pm
Hello John,
I put out the story that Paris blogs to your web site, to a few media outlets. I point out that she is smarter than most people think. She explains to you how the media works in Hollywood, and welcomes you, and your upcoming Fox TV Show. In which you will reproduce the Philadelphia experiment as well as other impressive things.
Paris has a very good grasps of how to arrange the media for it best impact and she’s teaching you. this is very smart. And that she knows of you makes her more dynamic. People will want to know who is john Hutchinson is. then your charisma will come in handy.
If you start getting calls, this is what this is about. Be ready to talk about the Philly experiment, Ron, Anti- Gravity experiments, Celebrity guest.plus Paris will be on the show. Because we will invite her.
If all the talk is about Paris, then milk it and talk about as much as they want. Such as :
It was very generous of Paris to inform me of how the media works. She is interested in many things.
Safe kind statements.
Thanks, Robert.
October 20th, 2007 at 9:45 pm
Hello John,
She doesn’t need to do anything. Other than introduce or explain what you are about to do.
This will creates a lot of interest.
If you remember Arthur miller and Marilyn Monroe. What was he doing with her. Arthur was cerebral man.
She did not seem like it but was. We may have the same here.
P. S. I wrote her when she went to jail. I told her to stay positive and when she gets out, I would take her flying in my helicopter far fro the paparazzi She sent me an elegant photo and a nice letter.
Robert
October 20th, 2007 at 9:47 pm
John —
Do not forward or I will seriously kick your ass…I’ve been drinking beer, so I’m being more honest than usual. Jesus, breaking my own rules…
NGEO is National Geographic.
“XXXXX” is OSD – and the “aerospace exec” I told you about is actually is Paul’s boss — an undersecretary of defense. Not sure which one…
They’ve been pushing BPP (and your work) into the Pentagon for about 2+ years now – the Pentagon presentation I told you about was their biggest push. Remember – standing ovation? That was CIA, DIA, NRO, USAF, and a few others….about 400 officers in a joint briefing, at least that’s what I was told.
They’ve been fighting on behalf of your research like crazy for the last couple of years, mostly because of the footage that we put together. They want to fund you. GXXXX doesn’t (he would, but doesn’t have the budget). If they fund you, it will be pure science, not weaponized..
PXXX is a believer, but his boss is still skeptical – that’s why I need to get solid footage with HZXXX. If I can get that, you’ll have somebody really valuable at your place in the very near future.
THAT is the reason that I’ve been bugging you so much lately — you’re amazingly close. Closer than John Alexander, who was a Lt. Colonel. Right now we’re at the undersecretary of Defense, and I know that Rumsfeld has looked at your work also. If we can put together a couple of hours of solid footage, then we’re set. Then you’ll have a lab, and I’ll quit pestering you.
BTW – If it matters, the “funders” that I told you about are Army Intelligence out of Ft. Meade (NSA). They showed up about 6 months ago. Mostly their interest is having me cover aXXXXXXX conferences, but my handler is friends with PXX, so part of our deal was letting me cover XXXresearch without being censored. (I didn’t ask about UFO’s, and I have no clue about anything else).
XXXX
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From: john hutchison [mailto:heffect@infinet.net]
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 12:40 AM
To: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Subject: RE: XXXX and I coming over..?
Hi tim what is ngeo ?? what does lisa want ?? she can have it as it leads to good things in the long term I got it here
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From: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 2:31 PM
To: ‘john hutchXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Subject: RE: XXXXXXand I coming over..?
HI John —
Are you going to be home tomorrow? We’d like to give it at least a shot then.
I know that you’re frustrated – I’m not in any better position than you are. I’m doingXXXXXXXX on the weekends just to help pay the bills, which are escalating out of control. Nobody in my audience gives a shit: I sent out some funding requests last month and got back nothing. It’s generalized apathy on a massive-scale — at least in your case you can pull up stakes and find someplace to go.
Lisa’s not going to be able to help – Coast and NGEO want the footage for their audience, and that’s it. In my case, I don’t want your existing footage, but I’d like to shoot some of my own for the Air Force guys. If I can take them footage of the effect plus my first-hand word that it happened when I was there, then I think they’ll fund you like they promised to. Also,XXXXXXfrom the STAIF Conference also wants to visit in the next couple of weeks, and he knows a bunch of aerospace-industry execs that can help…he was talking about bringing one of them with him.
I’ve been trying to get you funding for a long time – since we visited last year. I keep getting told that everybody loves your work, but they’re nervous about putting money into it without solid confirmation that it’s a real effect. That’s why I need to be there (otherwise I could just stay home & take XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX If we can get you funding, I still won’t get anything out of it, but at least it will be a way to help a friend pay his bills, and it may even lead you into funding for a research lab.
XXXXXXXXXXXXXX can pay for XXXXX, Arizona where they’re going to put this thing together. It’s going to take setting up the XXXX first to make it financially practical, but that’s the best they can do. I’m telling you buddy, nobody has cash at the moment, which is why the Air Force & aerospace industry is such a compelling opportunity – at present, they’re the only game in town.
Anyhow, let us drop by tomorrow afternoon — if nothing else, we can get your worries on tape, and maybe that’ll help the situation. If you want to fire up the equipment, maybe we can capture some footage, and I can use that to strong-arm the USAF guys, and XXXwill use it to sell his aerospace-exec on a trip up to your place.
XXXX
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From: john hutchison [mailto:heffect@infinet.net]
Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 1:47 PM
To: ‘XXXXXXXXXXXXX
Cc: XXXXX
Subject: REXXXXXX and I coming over..?
Hi guys lisa is on standby this stuff is for the originators as well as XXX tv I think I indicated that in my email unless you guys want to ship XXXXX is getting results with his XXX hes my student of many who is willing to learn this stuff iam calling it a wrap and getting out of here plus theres already a number of complaints DO I CARE NO cheers john
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From: HXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 10:01 AM
To: john hutchison
Subject: XXXand I coming over..?
Hi John… I just got off the phone with XX who called me as he and I would be very interested in coming over with both our video cameras to capture as much as possible while your up and running. If tomorrow is convenient, XXXXXX could be up fromXXXXX by 11 or noon and we could position the two cameras for best results should something happen. And as a side benefit, I also think it just might be a good opportunity to get you back on Coast as XXXXX and I could put together a good synopsis of what you’re doing and then we could suggest to Coast that they have you back on (if your interested in that)?
XXXXX will also be in touch with you and I’ll try calling you a little later when I’m in New West as my son and I will be working out at the Canada Games pool todayXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
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NEW FILM
Tuesday, October 3, 2006
Elaine Smitha’s Evolving Ideas
Live Interview with Filmmaker Jim Cherry, about the soon to be released
story of John Hutchison, titled: The Poltergeist.
Hutchison, a self educated physicist, is a living symbol of the new energy
movement. His controversial anti-gravity experiments are unexplainable,
except when measured against the electromagnetic fields and their mysterious
October 20th, 2007 at 9:52 pm
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Posts: 3 Posted 10-20-07 09:09 PM The fact is the agent in charge for researching this effect by the department of navaal research admitts that Lockhed Martin has succesfulley duplicted the effects. Proven and factual on the Discovery channel’s documentry of the Hutchison effect. If you cant trust the discovery channels findings then please ask Adam and Jamie the put it to the test.
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Posts: 37 Posted 10-20-07 09:31 PM Hutchison Effect caught on tape in High Def
Posted on Monday, June 04, 2007 @ 23:56:45 PDT by vlad
ROB SIMONE writes: Hi Bill,
I was just at John’s apt/laboratory with a camera crew for new TV series i’m co-producing and hosting. We shot for over 7 hours, in High Def, and captured some extraordinary footage.
You may ask about the HGH bottle that floated in the air for the better part of 20 min. It was constant and controlled…..stunning…
It seemed to have ‘over-driven’ some of the components, I’m not sure if that is a common problem…
Rob Simone
http://www.robsimone.com
William Alek wrote: Hello all,
Tomorrow night, I’ll be having dinner with the legend, John Hutchison, Terry Brady and Steve Elswick of Tesla Tech, and Gary Voss of TAP-TEN research. If anyone has any questions they would like to ask of the group, please send me an email?
October 20th, 2007 at 10:02 pm
As mentioned in Wikipedia, many armchair skeptics have presented explanations for how the footage of the Hutchison-Effect might be faked. Often cited as an example is a piece of video shot by Peter Von Puttkamer in 2003 showing what appears to be a toy UFO suspended on a string as evidence. The video, which aired in a Canadian television broadcast, includes a narrative that describes a single-wire transmission system that John was experimenting with on a particular day. It is not considered to be part of the “classic” Hutchison-Effect, and has no bearing on the veracity of experimental footage shot during the 1980’s. The experiment and its intent has been often misinterpreted due to early streaming-video of the footage, which excluded the explanatory narrative.
Another common skeptical accusation is that Hutchison is “tilting the room” (presumably an enclosure that can be rotated on it’s axis without changing the camera orientation). This is provided as evidence that simple camera trickery is used to provide the antigravity & levitation effects shown in a variety of Hutchison Effect videoclips. Close examination of the original “lost footage” clearly shows, however, that Hutchison’s footage is shot in a variety of areas in concrete-floored rooms, and full-length footage often shows floor-to-ceiling camera-pans that would be impossible for a mounted camera to achieve.
To clarify for the record, the burden of proof appears to demonstrate that the Hutchison Effect is a real and demonstrable natural effect, and that Hutchison is not faking the effect for publicity, money, or other motives.
Interviews with Dr. George Hathaway, Col. John Alexander, and television crews from Japan, Europe, and several networks in North America all verify that documented effects have been witnessed by many people at once, caught on multiple cameras (both amateur and professional), and do not involve simple trickery.
Other skeptics have suggested that while the Effect is real, it is not a natural phemenon, but instead a “psychic” or “PK” (psychokinesis) effect. This seemingly outlandish notion is the result of a report filed by a Stanford Research Institute team in the 1980’s, who were funded by INSCOM Colonel John Alexander and focused primarily on researching suspected psychic-phenomenon.
While this team verified that the Hutchison Effect did occur, they were unable to provide a scientific explanation for it, and thus described it as being psycho-kinetic in nature. Hutchison has speculated that the effect might also have been described as PK in order to keep it from being classified by the Army Intelligence and Security Command (INSCOM) as important to national security.
Recent Events
During DVD filming by American Antigravity, we were unable to capture the H-Effect on film due to Hutchison lacking the RF-tube equipment that he used throughout the 1980’s to generate the classic effect. This inability (from 1992 to 2006) to recreate the classic Hutchison Effect is in fact the reason that Hutchison was experimenting with other projects, such as the single-wire transmission system filmed by Peter Von Puttkamer. During part of this period of time, John was also under a voluntary test restriction by the local Vancouver mayor, who previously received calls from panicked neighbors during John’s experiments.
In March 2006, this situation changed when a former colleague of Hutchison’s – Alex Cherechesku – moved to a new house in Vancouver, and during the move returned an original RF tube amplifier to John that had been presumed lost over a decade earlier. Hutchison immediately began new experimentation, and during filming with well-known Canadian paranormal investigator Harold Berndt, was able to demonstrate several hundred pounds of equipment slam itself into an apartment wall with no apparent causal force. American Antigravity plans a return trip to attempt to capture the effect hopefully before the end of the year in 2007.
Recent Speculation
PhD Electrical Engineer James Corum co-authored a paper in 1981 with graduate-student Terry Keech where they analyzed how the metric tensor & gravity would be modified for a time-varying electric charge. The calculations that they derived & published suggest that a time-varying electric-charge can produce a ‘gravitational repulsion’ or negative gravitational-mass. Click Here
International Journal of Theoretical Physics (IJTP); Volume 20, 1981, pp. 63-68; Terry Keech and James Corum “New Derivation for the field of a time-varying charge in Einstein’s Field-Theory”.
Dr. George Hathaway and American Antigravity’s Tim Ventura believe that the jellification effects demonstrated by Hutchison may come from a disruption of valence-electron binding by resonant RF interference.
Ventura has designed an experiment to potentially verify this theory by recording the Hutchison Effect on an active sample using a logging multimeter, and then re-apply the same complex RF signal to the same signal at a later time using a linear-amplifier to match the original amplitude. Thus, while the original effect requires a complex arrangement of RF and high-voltage equipment to produce, it may be reproduced with a very simplistic and well-understood apparatus, verifying that a specific resonant signal is what causes the effect, and not psychokinetic or other causal factors.
Another notable factor has come to light since 2005 that also may play an important role in explaining the effect. Hutchison notes that the jellification effect begins in the middle of his sample (lengthwise), at least in the of long aluminum, brass, and steel bars. This may indicate that the length of the sample plays a role in coupling the RF signal that creates the effect to a specific sample
October 20th, 2007 at 10:08 pm
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October 20th, 2007 at 10:11 pm
Posted by: “enixer” enixer@wpswireless.com enixer_gkshow
Sat Oct 20, 2007 4:25 pm (PST) Omg …. I got a delivery failure trying to email the director of that site
his name is Khoury.. Can all you guys email him and ask what happened to the
Cooper videos???
Heres his email… Let me know if you get a delivery failure also…
Director@ufogroupsnetwork.org
Huggs, E
Hi E,
Now this doesn’t surprise me. A few years ago I butted heads with this Khoury guy. I posted answers to the lies he was telling in his group and he kicked me out. I even talked to him on the phone and after checking him out determined he was apparently some not too bright hired thug on maybe the CIA payroll who was out there to spread disinformation. I caught him in a lot of lies in other groups, showed definitive information about the truth, and he started threatening me. LOL
Art
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October 22nd, 2007 at 9:09 pm
Hey John,
It looks like you’re getting pretty popular being that you’re going to be on the science channel. Congratulations!!!
Steve
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:11 pm
John:
Getting these various toys made small is going to be essential to keeping the various electronic and electrical systems and compact AND reasonably cheap. Good thinking John as we cannot finalize the final cut & bend blueprint design until we have cube measured all the pieces of the systems and determined how we are going to wire it up. Dr. Mark Pesses the physicist and Chief scientist at SAIC in D.C. is apparently willing to hep us get what we are going to need produced off books at his firm after hours. He is reportedly going on payroll for RP to help us get this done including meeting and teaming up with Elizabeth to write the math of the RAM physics. With Colin McCavett at STARA Inc. in Tucson providing us the RC controls and other aspects for the various rig systems, that could make construction a real possible in 120 days. I want you to consider involving John Bedini in this effort as to finalizing our construction and testing. His machines are really beautiful works of electrical engineering art and he likes to work with HV resistant acrylics to construct his rigs. We have a good wire to him via William Gazeki the documentary film producer in L.A. take a look at his web sites and let me know your feelings on this.
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:44 pm
Fox rocks .Check it out
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:50 pm
You have left your “Mark” everywhere !!
Robert
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:53 pm
Levitation has been elevated from being pure science fiction to science fact, according to a study reported today by physicists.
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October 22nd, 2007 at 10:01 pm
John,” From Paris Hilton John ? Gordon does he want me in the film ? Let me backtrack into an idea lol ;; I’ve been successful at every last thing I’ve done since that time (except personal relationships, but I think I now understand why I do that to myself, too…another time for that discussoin, though, especially as I have left that behind me now). WHY have I been successful? Because every time I walked into an interview, or tried to do/accomplish something, I did it from that same mindset…and there was a principle at play here — act like you already are. Step into the role…and it becomes yours. Believe. Faith in the mystery. Simple analogy here. Someone doesn’t need to understand WHY flipping the switch makes the light go on…they just need to believe they should flip the switch, to take advantage of the technology. John, the believing…It has NEVER failed. I believe in this principle, completely, totally. I also believe that reality is, for lack of a better way to verbalize it, largely under our control. That we script our own lives to a very large degree. People get caught up in their dramas, and forget that at any moment, we can completely walk, totally flip the script. But it is ever there. It is a powerful thing to know, and I’ve done it, seen others do it. Many best-selling self-help books are based on it, too. Think and Grow Rich, for instance.
Anyhow…here goes. I want a partner —someone who is willing to toy with reality with me..someone to help me write a script, and see what happens. With complete intent. Far more so than what I played with over the years. Thing is, if you don’t believe in the script with every last atom of your being, it won’t work. It will automatically fail. What script? Anything we want, and I am pretty much open to trying ANY, as long as it doesn’t hurt, demean, or psychologically harm my kids, myself, or you if you find this idea intriguing enough to try. The script can be anything…we can work together, scripting a project as large or small as we like, and make it a reality. In an area totally expected, or so far out there it is unbelievable. It can be a unique friendship with magical qualities (believe the magic is there, and it will be). It can be an exploration of hard core scientific ‘facts’ that we seek to either support or undo, or it can be an exploration of the paranormal. Psychological explorations. ANYTHING, the only limits being our imagination. I know the examples I set herein aren’t revealing the deep power of this…and that perhaps I framed this in a way that is missing the passion that is possible in something like this..I am not talking of mundane things. I’m talking we write a script, agree it is going to be a reality, and make it happen. This is not like writing a business proposal (though I believe that that is WHY business proposals become reality…someone has set a path to making something concrete…I believe reality is about focus, and a business plan creates focus). I am talking about AGREEING TO A SCRIPT AND THEN CHANGING OUR PARADIGM IMMEDIATELY TO EMBRACE IT. Oh, I KNOW I’m not getting it right in here. I cannot put it into words tonight…why? Because it is so exciting to me that I can feel every atom of my being jumping about at the possibility. I’m talking it can be ANYTHING. Walk through walls? Why not? And if we can do things with machines…hmmm…maybe you will think this nuts, but I’ll try it on for size, learn a bit about you. I know I risk losing your respect here, perhaps. but so be it, truth and honesty come first. You can build a machine that can do unusual things…for instance, levitation. But see…ok, Bach put it best in illusions (I’m going to paraphrase, it has been forever since I read it). He wanted to fly –without a plane. Figures that planes took so long to be invented because noone believed they could be. Once someone believed, bam, it was made into reality. HOwever, the person(s) imagining flight were imagining it with machines. If you believe you can fly without a machine, it is merely a matter of experimenting until you find the right way…same thing they did when experimenting with machines that could fly. In other words, once you believe it is possible, you apply yourself to discovering the principles. For instance, you can make things levitate with the aid of a machine. Well, what if you shift the paradigm and believe you can make things levitate WITHOUT a machine. What if you modify the definition of machine to include YOUR BRAIN OR BODY CHEMISTRY as a machine…could you then begin to reframe it all, with looking to levitate with the aid of a new machine, your brain? Or with the electrical impulses in your body? From there you can start to examine your biology, in relation to the chemical makeup of the world around you. Are there ways in which they interact that can be manipulated, without a machine, but with some approach akin to biofeedback (ah, not exactly, but I am trying to NOT write an entire book to you tonight, lol…are you getting the idea? Is this totally insane? ).
I have talked this over with the other PERSON on many occasions. At one point, when we were both already in a relationship, we were discussing WHY arranged marriages seem to turn out so well (the studies on this are astounding). Yes, there is something to the fact that perhaps the parents are choosing well, based on compatability factors, and matching up socio-economic levels, etc. BUT, what if it were not because of that, but because of the paradigm. You are entering into a relationship based upon the premise that it is going to work. You walk down that aisle, perhaps seeing your husband for the first time, and you go home, and you make it work. That is all. No questions asked. This is reality . You are married, and it is going to work. We used to toy with the idea (we were both pretty unhappy in the relationships we were in at the time, lol). What if we had found a like-minded soul, someone we could trust inherently, know competely, and sat down and wrote a script? There is a song by Jewel called Painters. She tells of a couple who made their love an art to live by…created blueprints for their love. This song sort of captures a bit of this concept…you agree to do something, and manifest it. SEE???? This principle can be applied to ANYTHING. (I’m going to attach the lyrics to the song below, it is such a cool thing,l think).
I believe the love story of authors Henry Miller and Anais Nin is one of the greatest in history (not the greatest, but definitely ONE of the greatest). I have a sneaking suspicion that they did something similar to this. Their’s was bittersweet, they didn’t wind up together in the end. But I think they WANTED it that way…for they were writers, and they appreciated the tragic beauty of such a story, the poignancy. And each had their own life, their own love, their own interests. They created Miller and Nin, greatest love story of their time..with intent. More for the poetry, than pehaps for what was there.
So see, it can be applied to anything. Let us build a flying machine never before seen, or a board game wherein the pawns electronically communicate with the board, and assess different situations, let us walk through a wall, or communicate with another dimension, or get to know an entity personally, as in very well, or open a museum just for kids unlike any that has ever before been seen, that blows away all science museums ever before seen…an imaginarium that pushes the limits; let us create a sci-fi story (fact or fiction, perhaps a combination of both) that pushes the limits; let us create our own frankenstein; let us convince authorities to let us camp out in the sphinx for a night…do you see what I’m saying? Let us begin a great game…let us break all rules, let us warp and distort reality, make our own stories, rescript life. lol, I guess I’m asking you to join me in an adventure, but not the kind people typically explore. When time allows after this jail MESS LOL OK??????
I THINK what I’m proposing is that we become ‘partners in crime’ (lol, though I’m not talking crime per se, because I want permissions where permissions aren’t granted — oh, and btw, my friends and I , back then, would create little challenges, like ‘breaking a minor law, right in front of a police officer, and getting him to laugh about it wiht you’ – or getting the police and fire department who show up to close down your party to instead come join it when they are off duty, Well I think this jail time lol “””””Was not fun “””Or to get the 80 y/o senator to come to the nightclub and dance on the speakers with you; to get John Updike to play telephone at the dinner table with you…we did all these things – oh, and to go out for an evening, and pretend you are named ginger and maryann, and go the whole night telling people your life story as if you really WERE stranded on an island, and to do it so in such a way that they believed you, and never caught on that you were taking it straight from the script of gilligan’s island). But I want to take it to new levels…with no limits.
ANYTHING JOHN!!! And what I’m asking here is a simple experiment. Let us get creative, let our imaginations run wild, and try it out…something intriguing, unusual, out there. Just between us…no one else has to know. We can start oh-so-small. We don’t even have to meet to do it, even. I’m saying, let us be reality weavers, cloudbusters, whatever..but with intent, and with the complete commitment to the idea that we are not limited WHATSOEVER by laws of physics/nature/culture…
I’m not saying be totally mad in this…or dangerous even. (oh, but the idea itself seems so dangerous…do you know what I mean when I say ideas can be dangerous? Not to others so much as ourselves…an idea can shake us to the core of our being…can change our entire world, leave us unsettled to the end of our days…!). I’m just saying…let us script something crazy, and make it reality.
Sort of like Dungeons and Dragons, but different, lol. And real. If you think about it, where really IS the difference between fantasy and reality? You may be sitting there on your sofa, someone who has never traveled more than 50 miles from their home. You see a show that gets you thinking…I want to see Paris! Something inside you shifts, you believe now that you will see Paris. Next thing you know, you are saving money. Looking into fares. Taking time off from work. Booking your flight. Departing on that flight.
What if you were sitting on your sofa, and instead of deciding you want to go to Japan lets say you decide you want to walk through walls? And something shifts inside you, you now believe that you WILL walk through walls. Well…the only thing that TRULY makes this more difficult to do than Japan is that no one has left you a blueprint…see, you know, be it from friends, or TV, or reading, or from experience, what planning a trip will involve. Well, planning to walk through walls, we don’t have good information on how to do that, and we haven’t seen it being done for real. We’ve seen others decide to go to Japan and make it happen, so it is TANGIBLE to us. WEll…those who first built flying machines were in the same position as the fella sitting on the couch deciding to walk through walls… no prior examples of success, no blueprints.
YOU of all people should get this. You have been an explorer, a discoverer, a detective. What I’m proposing here is we pick ANYTHING. only imagination limits us. And we do it. More intentionally. And we document it. ANd if it is intriguing, we spoon feed the concept to the rest of the world. Give others a little magic to believe in. Open a few minds. Let others see that life is endless possibility. Because…it is. But people get trapped, and it is all illusion, it is only their own minds, their own imaginations that hold them back.
OK, I can’t fully explain what I’m proposing here. I’m just saying…take this little bit that I put forth here, and let us play…like children…like god-children, children who have the ability to weave worlds…because isn’t that all ANY of us do when we write the script that is our life? Because let us be honest here, we DO write our scripts. OK, one can argue that the juvenile factors aren’t written by us…even if we don’t touch that one…who we are today is determined by us, by each choice we make along the way…oh, I hope I haven’t lost you here. I’m sleepy, and not getting this down as lucidly, as eloquently as I’d like.
I approach you with this (and Laura and I have always been, till now, too afraid to share the idea with anyone else, because we didn’t think anyone else would get it…) because you are the explorer that you are, you have a solid education in both science and the paranormal, a tremendous imagination, and I have connected with you on a deep level that I think indicates (I could be wrong…in everything…in all things…that is my caveat) you have wha t it takes, and that we have enough in common on the levels where it is important, to make this happen.
SO…do you want to try this little game? Write the script with me…whatever it may be. You can throw the subjects out there, I’m open to exploring pretty much any idea…again, if I am not comfortable with something, I will simply tell you it.
Think on this. The possibilities are endless. I guess what I”m saying is this: Let’s explore the potential to STOP EVERYTHING and take as full a control of our destiny (in one small area at least) as we can. The examined life. The chosen life. The life uncommon.
Doing this with a partner is, as Laura and I discussed, what will make it more real….someone to collaborate with.
And yes, she and I did play with this a little bit. And on minor levels we have made it happen. Thing is, she and I have very different lives right now, as she has toddlers to raise, an out-of-work husband, and a huge law career that she is tryingt o juggle. Time to commit to changing any of that is what she lacks (ironic, as those are EXACTLY the kinds of things she could address..I think she is just afraid). SO…I’m proposing a leap in reality.
LOL…and while I nkow what I mean by this, I also DO NOT know what I mean…meaning (lol) that I know it intuitively, but it is yet needing more focus…
Am I making ANY sense at all? I’m talking, quite simply, taking the bull by the horns…but in something wherein most people don’t…any topic. any area of life. think about it…
Or write me off as too much of a fruitcake to deal with…I wouldn’t blame you, to be honest.
Anyhow, song lyrics are below….Hugs! Paris oops getting very ready to be released from here JAIL lol More medias Just like my first post remember ?thank you for saving them “John “PARIS HILTON” PXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX 818XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX310XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX 310XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:50 pm
i talked to her on the forum once. She sounds like a good person at heart, but having her on your show is like mixing water with oil.
your Bro for life(your stuck with me, ahhhhhh) xxxxxxxxx
Thank you for returning our property.. I’ll bet you $1500.00 to your
$15.00 this affair will in the years to come be looked upon by yourself
and your lovely wife as your greatest financial mistake as even your
friend Paul Mueller has said in writing you provided us with nothing of
any value for our hard earned money much less the well discussed, defined
and agreed to rig compnents parts manual. You and facts don’t get
along well I’ve sadly discovered. How does it feel to take someone’s money
and give them nothing you agreed to???
Blocking my e-mails is a cowardly thing to do John. My belief now is
you never intended to do the task once you discovered some real work was
involved and were willing to sacrifice our friendship and a huge.very
real fortune for a lousy $1.500.00 dollars. I find you and this dumb
affair very sad as I really liked and admired you. Tell Paris hello for
me.
GN
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Posted by John Hutchison at 12:30 AM 0 comments
Tuesday, October 2, 2007
more reality soap
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/novel_memo.htm
INTERESTING HOW YOUR FUNDING DISTRIBUTION IS GETTING CHANGED WITH EACH E-MAIL,
WARNINGS FROM PREVIOUS ASSOCIATES AND THE ABOVE ATTACHMENTS REGARDING ALSO YOUR AFFILIATIONS WITH THE GOVERNMENT CIA. WHICH DISCLOSE YOU HAVE NOT HAD ANY AFFILIATIONS WITH THE CIA ACCORDING TO THE LEGAL DOCUMENT SENT TO ME.
GORDON IN LIEU OF THE MESSAGES YOU LEFT THAT ARE NOT PROFESSIONAL MUCH LESS COMMON COURTESY OF THE WARMTH YOU WERE REGARDED WITH HERE IN OUR HOME.
I WOULD APPRECIATE YOU REFLECTING ON WHAT WAS SAID AND WHEN I STARTED HELPING WITH NO FUNDING, ABSOLUTELY NONE,… FROM YOU LAST OCTOBER . MY TIME IS VALUABLE AS WELL.
I DON’T LIKE CONFRONTATION OR THE LANGUAGE YOU USE WHICH IS TOTALLY UNNECESSARY.
THE HELP I GAVE AND THE TWO WEEKENDS YOU SPENT WAS TO BE PAID FOR BY WHAT YOU STATED WAS TO BE ORIGINALLY $2,OOO. NOT WHAT YOU SENT AND THE IDEA TO TIE PARIS HILTON AND THE INAPPROPRIATE SUGGESTIONS AND THE NONSENSE INCLUDED.
PROFESSIONAL SERIOUS INDIVIDUALS PRESENT CONTRACTS AND REAL MONEY TO THE TABLE.
WHY DON’T YOU GET THE GOING RATE FOR EXAMPLE ON WHAT A CONTRACTOR WOULD ACCEPT FOR A FILM AND WHAT YOU SUGGEST AS A FEE. PLEASE GET A SOME QUOTES AND SEE WHAT REALISTIC PEOPLE IN THIS INDUSTRY GET PAID FOR FILM MUCH LESS THE PROJECT YOU ARE THINKING ON THE SCALE OF IT.
AS FOR YOUR UNKIND COMMENTS REGARDING YOUR INFORMATION REPORTS AND DOCUMENTS LEFT, I ASKED YOU NOT TO LEAVE IT TO BEGIN WITH AND ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS HAVE ASKED YOU TO PICK IT UP AND YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO BE GETTING IT ON ONE OF YOUR MANY TRAVELS FROM THE SOUTH AND THEN GOING SOUTH THEN WHEN YOU WERE GOING TO VEGAS AND AGAIN WHEN YOU WERE GOING TO DESERT PALMS TO YOUR RESORT STAY. AT DR. ELIZABETH A RAUSCHER WHO BY THE WAY , KEPT STATING.” YOU NEVER BRING YOUR CHECK BOOK” , TO BACK UP YOU REQUEST AND QUERY PEOPLE FOR INFORMATION SO YOU DON’T GET ANSWERS BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE ANY ONE SERIOUS WOULD LIKE TO BE RESPECTED FOR THEIR TIME AND KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERTISE. I REQUESTED AND STATED ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS WHEN YOU WOULD PICK IT UP ?
I DON’T WANT IT, OR NEED IT, AND HAVE NOT THE INTEREST TO KEEP IT, YOU ASKED TO LEAVE IT HERE, REMEMBER ?
SO STOP WITH THE INCONSIDERATION AND VULGAR PHONE CALLS IT IS COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY.
YOUR STORIES VARY WITH EACH PHONE CALL, AND PEOPLE CALLING AND WARNING ME NOT TO HAVE ANY AFFILIATION WITH YOU DUE TO NOT ACTING PROFESSIONAL ON THE SCALE OF BEHAVIOR , CONTRACT, COMMITMENT AND WHAT YOU DEMAND YOU SAY ONE THING AND DO ANOTHER.
I WISH YOU WELL BUT, THE ABSURD AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT YOU GAVE ME DOESN’T REMOTELY COVER WHAT I HAVE DONE AND DID FOR YOU. WHICH BY THE WAY AGAIN YOU STATED WAS TO COVER FOR THE 2 WEEKENDS YOU TOOK MY TIME FROM MY OTHER PROJECTS AND FAMILY.
THE OTHERS YOU MENTIONED ON THIS PROJECT THAT WERE LEAVING OR WHO NEVER GOT ON BOARD TO BEGIN WITH, WERE DUE TO THE LACK OF FUNDING AND WHEN QUESTIONED AS TO THE STUDIOS AND COMMITMENT OF PEOPLE SERIOUS YOU DIDN’T RESPOND. REMEMBER???
PROFESSIONAL PEOPLE IN THE INDUSTRY DO NOT ACT AS THIS AND CONTRACTS ARE SIGNED AND TIME AND BUDGETS SET WITH MEETINGS AND REAL DISCUSSIONS TO REGARDING THE CONSTRUCTION AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE RIG AND WHAT IT NEEDS IS DONE. NOT THE SUBJECTS YOU ALSO DISCUSSED. WHICH WERE COMMON VULGARITY AND DISRESPECTFUL.
SO I WISH YOU WELL. BUT I TRULY PREFER TO DO A JOB PROFESSIONALLY AND NOT WITH THE UNKINDNESS AND UNAPPRECIATED BEHAVIOR YOU HAVE DISPLAYED ON THE PHONE AND IN OUR HOME. INCLUDING THE SMOKING OF POT IN OUR HOME!!!! YOU HAVE HURT US AND NOT VALUED WHAT WAS GIVEN WHICH CAME FROM GOOD FAITH AND HEART. WHICH MET WITH YOUR VULGARITY AND DISRESPECT.
THE TECHNOLOGY THAT WAS PRESENTED TO ME IS ARCHAIC AND OUTDATED, AND HAS BEEN DONE AND FAILED, WHICH YOU KNOW. BECAUSE YOU STATED SO AND YOU WANTED TO PROVE A POINT RESENTFUL OF THE WAY YOU WERE TREATED FROM THE GOVERNMENT BOYS IN THE PAST, REMEMBER YOU WANTED TO FLY IN THEIR BACKYARD REMEMBER??? ACCORDING TO YOUR STATEMENTS HERE.
THE DOD SBIR PROGRAM THAT I AM A MEMBER OF FOR SOMETIME, SHOWS ADVANCED NEW TECHNOLOGY ON ANTI GRAVITY. YOU OUGHT TO REFER TO.
THE CIA’S 00B SERIES OF UFO REPORTS LOCATED AT THE CIA HEADQUARTERS THAT IF YOU WERE A MEMBER OR AFFILIATED OR SIMPLE GO THROUGH FOIA, YOU WOULD BE ASSIGNED A PRIVACY
CO-ORDINATOR ,… WHO WOULD REQUEST INFO AND THEN WOULD INVITE YOU THERE AS PER THEIR CFR RULINGS TO PHOTO COPYING CHARGES AND RULES OF CONDUCT WHILE ON THE PREMISES.
BUT YOU AGAIN WOULD KNOW OF THIS HAD YOU BEEN THERE.
PLEASE REFRAIN FROM CONTACTING US AND ME. THIS WAS THE KINDNESS YOU SHOW PEOPLE WHO GAVE A HAND IN WHAT YOU WANTED TO DO. SO MUCH FOR MANKIND AND IMPROVING HUMAN RELATIONS WHEN YOU PUSH EVERYONE AWAY, IN YOUR WORLD.
BE WELL AND TAKE CARE.
—– Original Message —–
From: John Hutchison
To: froni
Subject: Fw: gordon novel and hutchison titans
—– Original Message —–
From: John Hutchison
To:
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 8:04 PM
Subject: gordon novel and hutchison titans
Adding to this I received phone calls from scientists who dropped off the scene as well as your sponsors as well as Hollywood film makers why they phone me ? warning me? lots anyway Gordon I worked a long time with urls for the engineering firms who would supply your team with how to build a flywheel ; d.c motors as well as switching units from Germany I hope you found that information o.k. as I understood this project it was to be high tech NOT INVOLVING PARIS HILTON WHO WAS WRITING ON ANOTHER TOPIC a comment you made anyway bitching and complaining does never works in getting any project going so 1500.00 is peanuts to what I get IN MY WORK MAN THE FELLOW PHONED ME UP ABOUT YOUR OR MONEY HE GAVE YOU REMEMBER ?????????PEACE CHILL OUT
—– Original Message —
DON’T MAKE ME YOURS I GUARANTEE ILL COVER THIS WITH FULL MEDIA AS WELL AS MANY OTHERS
WE ALREADY TALKED TODAY ABOUT THIS FINISHED ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; WE TREATED YOU LIKE A KING AS YOU STAYED HERE 2 WEEKENDS
AS MY LADY GAVE YOU ENERGY TREATMENTS FOR FREE;; I GAVE MY TIME ALSO YES ALSO I GAVE YOU ALL THE URLS TO BUILD THE RIG
THREW EMAILS SINCE OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR PLEASE ALSO NOTE WE OUR HOME WAS UPSET WITH YOU SMOKING POT IN A CHURCH ORGANIZATION THIS MESSAGE COPIED AND PASTED TO ALL GORDON COOL IT THE RIG CANNOT BE BUILT WITH SO MANY FOLKS BITCHING AT EACH OTHER I GOT MY PRIORITIES
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g.novel@yahoo.com wrote:
> John:
>
> I am not the one who said he could do the job, took our money and then didn’t
> perform. You have been legally requested to either do as you agreed or return
> our money.
>
> Moreover, you have our personal research property we also trusted you with. You
> have been requested to return it forthwith. You are not responding to our
> e-mails. If I don’t hear from you immediately as to: A) How you intend to
> resolve this rig components parts manual problem; BE) When can we expect the
> return of our personal property???
>
> Should I not hear from you promptly as to properly resolving this matter, you
> can expect to hear from David Hardy Esq. our RAM Teams civil counsel in Tucson,
> Arizona preparatory to you forcing us to taking legal action to recover our
> money and our property. John, face, money and our Team’s research work is not
> something you want to play games with as it will inevitably cost you one way or
> another dearly.
>
> I genuinely like and admire you but I don’t like a little bit how you have
> treated me since WE overpaid you. We can likely work this out PROVIDED you
> intend to keep your end of our agreement. However, be damn well advised that I
> am not known for tolerating double-dealers and fools well at all.
>
> I suggest you call me before David calls you as I would prefer we remain
> friends because you really cannot afford me for a foe. Those cc’s are all
> lawyers who will join into this should that be required.
>
> You will recall that I previously told you I was immediately prepared to make a
> third trip to Phoenix to work with and help you do this task as you agreed to
> do. Beyond that I cannot and will not go. The payback lagniappe for this
> unnecessary grief that I want for the extra $500.00 WE gave you is a meeting
> with Paris Hilton.
>
> Please don’t make me your enemy!
>
> GNU
> Sent via Blackberry by AT&TO
>
> —–Original Message—–
> From: Bill an and Kerry Csidy
>
> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 01:29:53
> To:
> Cc:Ronald Polfi
> Subject: Re: Your high voltage rig
>
>
> Hi, Gordon – Bill here, sending to you and Ron only re this.
>
> I’ve never met John HE, but have a keen idea of his personality and aptitudes.
> He’s a brilliant and inspired intuitive hands-on experimenter but you can see
> from his e-mails that writing anything at all, or operating formally and
> systematically, is not his bag or his training. He’s clearly a nice guy who is
> keen to help, but I suspect he is maybe disorganized and chaotic and could well
> have volunteered beyond his capability.
>
> Go easy on him: he may well simply have agreed to something he should not have
> done. (If he’s already been paid, though, then of course that’s a problem.)
>
> I was flabbergasted at Sarfatti too! Maybe he wasn’t feeling well :)
>
> Very best as always –
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> —————-
> From:
> Reply-To:
> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 18:19:20 +0000
> To: Ronald Polfi
> Cc: >
> Ron:
>
> What has caused this sea change in Scarlatti’s attitude towards the feasibility
> of RAM? To say I am shocked is to clearly understate the case. Flabbergasted
> fits the bill better. This amounts to a ringing endorsement from formerly a
> very harsh critic.
>
> John Hutchison has not even remotely come close to keeping his end of the
> simple science bargain to produce the rig component parts manual. Why he
> elected to do this to myself and the RAM Team only he knows.
>
> Very sad because I greatly admired him as an honorable person. We overpaid him
> to do this and it doesn’t make sense a twit. When the Team hears all the
> details his reputation will suffer greatly – though he really doesn’t seem to
> care.
>
> GNU
>
> Sent via Blackberry by AT&TO
>
> —–Original Message—–
> From: Jack Sarfatti
>
> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 10:25:41
> To:Gordon Novel
> Subject: Fwd: Your high voltage rig
>
>
>
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>
> 0000,0000,0000From:
> Jack Sarfatti
> 0000,0000,0000Date:
> September 27, 2007 7:57:10 PM PDT
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Gordon
>
> If I can get Dan Smith to come out here in early December we will
> drive to Palm Springs to see you and I will introduce you to my friend
> Don who lives out there part of the year. Don was a Reagan banking
> economics advisor and a business associate of William Colby. Maybe Ken
> Shoulders can build your rig? If he thinks he can I certainly support
> someone providing the funds for Ken to do that. It’s worth trying to
> see what happens. :-)
>
>
>
>
INTERESTING
g.novel@yahoo.com wrote:
> John:
>
> I am not the one who said he could do the job, took our money and then didn’t
> perform. You have been legally requested to either do as you agreed or return
> our money.
>
> Moreover, you have our personal research property we also trusted you with. You
> have been requested to return it forthwith. You are not responding to our
> e-mails. If I don’t hear from you immediately as to: A) How you intend to
> resolve this rig componets parts manual problem; B) When can we expect the
> return of our personal property???
>
> Should I not hear from you promptly as to properly resolving this matter, you
> can expect to hear from David Hardy Esq. our RAM Teams civil counsel in Tucson,
> Arizona preparatory to you forcing us to taking legal action to recover our
> money and our property. John, face, money and our Team’s research work is not
> something you want to play games with as it will inevitably cost you one way or
> another dearly.
>
> I genuinely like and admire you but I don’t like a little bit how you have
> treated me since WE overpaid you. We can likely work this out PROVIDED you
> intend to keep your end of our agreement. However, be damn well advised that I
> am not known for tolerating double-dealers and fools well at all.
>
> I suggest you call me before David calls you as I would prefer we remain
> friends because you really cannot afford me for a foe. Those cc’s are all
> lawyers who will join into this should that be required.
>
> You will recall that I previously told you I was immediately prepared to make a
> third trip to Phoenix to work with and help you do this task as you agreed to
> do. Beyond that I cannot and will not go. The payback lagniappe for this
> unnecessary grief that I want for the extra $500.00 WE gave you is a meeting
> with Paris Hilton.
>
> Please don’t make me your enemy!
>
> GN
> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>
> —–Original Message—–
> From: Bill an and Kerry Caidy
>
> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 01:29
>
>
> Hi, Gordon – Bill here, sending to you and Ron only re this.
>
> I’ve never met John H, but have a keen idea of his personality and aptitudes.
> He’s a brilliant and inspired intuitive hands-on experimenter but you can see
> from his e-mails that writing anything at all, or operating formally and
> systematically, is not his bag or his training. He’s clearly a nice guy who is
> keen to help, but I suspect he is maybe disorganized and chaotic and could well
> have volunteered beyond his capability.
>
> Go easy on him: he may well simply have agreed to something he should not have
> done. (If he’s already been paid, though, then of course that’s a problem.)
>
> I was flabbergasted at Sarfatti too! Maybe he wasn’t feeling well :)
>
> Very best as always –
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> —————-
> From:
> Reply-To:
> D
>
> Ron:
>
> What has caused this sea change in Sarfatti’s attitude towards the feasibility
> of RAM? To say I am shocked is to clearly understate the case. Flabbergasted
> fits the bill better. This amounts to a ringing endorsement from formerly a
> very harsh critic.
>
> John Hutchison has not even remotely come close to keeping his end of the
> simple science bargain to produce the rig component parts manual. Why he
> elected to do this to myself and the RAM Team only he knows.
>
> Very sad because I greatly admired him as an honorable person. We overpaid him
> to do this and it doesn’t make sense a twit. When the Team hears all the
> details his reputation will suffer greatly – though he really doesn’t seem to
> care.
>
> GN
>
> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>
> —–Original Message—–
> From: Jack Sarfatti
>
> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 10:25:41
> To:Gordon Novel
> Subject: Fwd: Your high voltage rig
>
>
>
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>
>
>
> Hi Gordon
>
> If I can get Dan Smith to come out here in early December we will
> drive to Palm Springs to see you and I will introduce you to my friend
> Don who lives out there part of the year. Don was a Reagan banking
> economics advisor and a business associate of William Colby. Maybe Ken
> Shoulders can build your rig? If he thinks he can I certainly support
> someone providing the funds for Ken to do that. It’s worth trying to
> see what happens. :-)
>
>
>
>
———————————————-
John Hutchison
http://www.hutchisoneffect.com
———————————————-
John Hutchison
http://www.hutchisoneffect.com
Posted by John Hutchison at 2:35 PM 0 comments
Monday, October 1, 2007
THINK ON THIS WHERES COMMON SENSE
DON’T MAKE ME YOURS I GUARANTEE ILL COVER THIS WITH FULL MEDIA AS WELL AS MANY OTHERS
WE ALREADY TALKED TODAY ABOUT THIS FINISHED ; WE TREATED YOU LIKE A KING AS YOU STAYED HERE 2 WEEKENDS
AS MY LADY GAVE YOU ENERGY TREATMENTS FOR FREE;; I GAVE MY TIME ALSO YES ALSO I GAVE YOU ALL THE URLS TO BUILD THE RIG
THREW EMAILS SINCE OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR PLEASE ALSO NOTE WE OUR HOME WAS UPSET WITH YOU SMOKING POT IN A CHURCH ORGANIZATION THIS MESSAGE COPIED AND PASTED TO ALL
g.novel@yahoo.com wrote:
> John:
>
> I am not the one who said he could do the job, took our money and then didn’t
> perform. You have been legally requested to either do as you agreed or return
> our money.
>
> Moreover, you have our personal research property we also trusted you with. You
> have been requested to return it forthwith. You are not responding to our
> e-mails. If I don’t hear from you immediately as to: A) How you intend to
> resolve this rig components parts manual problem; BE) When can we expect the
> return of our personal property???
>
> Should I not hear from you promptly as to properly resolving this matter, you
> can expect to hear from David Hardy Esq. our RAM Teams civil counsel in Tucson,
> Arizona preparatory to you forcing us to taking legal action to recover our
> money and our property. John, face, money and our Team’s research work is not
> something you want to play games with as it will inevitably cost you one way or
> another dearly.
>
> I genuinely like and admire you but I don’t like a little bit how you have
> treated me since WE overpaid you. We can likely work this out PROVIDED you
> intend to keep your end of our agreement. However, be damn well advised that I
> am not known for tolerating double-dealers and fools well at all.
>
> I suggest you call me before David calls you as I would prefer we remain
> friends because you really cannot afford me for a foe. Those cc’s are all
> lawyers who will join into this should that be required.
>
> You will recall that I previously told you I was immediately prepared to make a
> third trip to Phoenix to work with and help you do this task as you agreed to
> do. Beyond that I cannot and will not go. The payback lagniappe for this
> unnecessary grief that I want for the extra $500.00 WE gave you is a meeting
> with Paris Hilton.
>
> Please don’t make me your enemy!
>
> GNU
> Sent via Blackberry by AT&TO
>
> —–Original Message—–
> From: Bill Ryan and Kerry Cassidy
>
> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 01:29:53
> To:
> Cc:Ronald Pandolfi
> Subject: Re: Your high voltage rig
>
>
> Hi, Gordon – Bill here, sending to you and Ron only re this.
>
> I’ve never met John HE, but have a keen idea of his personality and aptitudes.
> He’s a brilliant and inspired intuitive hands-on experimenter but you can see
> from his e-mails that writing anything at all, or operating formally and
> systematically, is not his bag or his training. He’s clearly a nice guy who is
> keen to help, but I suspect he is maybe disorganized and chaotic and could well
> have volunteered beyond his capability.
>
> Go easy on him: he may well simply have agreed to something he should not have
> done. (If he’s already been paid, though, then of course that’s a problem.)
>
> I was flabbergasted at Sarfatti too! Maybe he wasn’t feeling well :)
>
> Very best as always –
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> —————-
> From:
> Reply-To:
> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 18:19:20 +0000
> T
>
> Ron:
>
> What has caused this sea change in Scarlatti’s attitude towards the feasibility
> of RAM? To say I am shocked is to clearly understate the case. Flabbergasted
> fits the bill better. This amounts to a ringing endorsement from formerly a
> very harsh critic.
>
> John Hutchison has not even remotely come close to keeping his end of the
> simple science bargain to produce the rig component parts manual. Why he
> elected to do this to myself and the RAM Team only he knows.
>
> Very sad because I greatly admired him as an honorable person. We overpaid him
> to do this and it doesn’t make sense a twit. When the Team hears all the
> details his reputation will suffer greatly – though he really doesn’t seem to
> care.
>
> GNU
>
> Sent via Blackberry by AT&TO
>
> —–Original Message—–
> From: Jack Sarfatti
>
> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 10:25:41
> To:Gordon Novel
> Subject: Fwd: Your high voltage rig
>
>
>
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>
> 0000,0000,0000From:
> Jack Sarfatti
> 0000,0000,0000Date:
> September 27, 2007 7:57:10 PM PDT
>
> 0000,0000,0000To: Gordon
> Novel
> 0000,0000,0000Cc: Dan Smith
> Shoulders lisbona
> 0000,0000,0000Subject: Your high
> voltage rig
>
>
>
> Hi Gordon
>
> If I can get Dan Smith to come out here in early December we will
> drive to Palm Springs to see you and I will introduce you to my friend
> Don who lives out there part of the year. Don was a Reagan banking
> economics advisor and a business associate of William Colby. Maybe Ken
> Shoulders can build your rig? If he thinks he can I certainly support
> someone providing the funds for Ken to do that. It’s worth trying to
> see what happens. :-)
>
>
>
>
INTERESTING
g.novel@yahoo.com wrote:
> John:
>
> I am not the one who said he could do the job, took our money and then didn’t
> perform. You have been legally requested to either do as you agreed or return
> our money.
>
> Moreover, you have our personal research property we also trusted you with. You
> have been requested to return it forthwith. You are not responding to our
> e-mails. If I don’t hear from you immediately as to: A) How you intend to
> resolve this rig componets parts manual problem; B) When can we expect the
> return of our personal property???
>
> Should I not hear from you promptly as to properly resolving this matter, you
> can expect to hear from David Hardy Esq. our RAM Teams civil counsel in Tucson,
> Arizona preparatory to you forcing us to taking legal action to recover our
> money and our property. John, face, money and our Team’s research work is not
> something you want to play games with as it will inevitably cost you one way or
> another dearly.
>
> I genuinely like and admire you but I don’t like a little bit how you have
> treated me since WE overpaid you. We can likely work this out PROVIDED you
> intend to keep your end of our agreement. However, be damn well advised that I
> am not known for tolerating double-dealers and fools well at all.
>
> I suggest you call me before David calls you as I would prefer we remain
> friends because you really cannot afford me for a foe. Those cc’s are all
> lawyers who will join into this should that be required.
>
> You will recall that I previously told you I was immediately prepared to make a
> third trip to Phoenix to work with and help you do this task as you agreed to
> do. Beyond that I cannot and will not go. The payback lagniappe for this
> unnecessary grief that I want for the extra $500.00 WE gave you is a meeting
> with Paris Hilton.
>
> Please don’t make me your enemy!
>
> GN
> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>
> —–Original Message—–
> From: Bill Ryan and Kerry Cassidy
>
> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 01:29:53
> Subject: Re: Your high voltage rig
>
>
> Hi, Gordon – Bill here, sending to you and Ron only re this.
>
> I’ve never met John H, but have a keen idea of his personality and aptitudes.
> He’s a brilliant and inspired intuitive hands-on experimenter but you can see
> from his e-mails that writing anything at all, or operating formally and
> systematically, is not his bag or his training. He’s clearly a nice guy who is
> keen to help, but I suspect he is maybe disorganized and chaotic and could well
> have volunteered beyond his capability.
>
> Go easy on him: he may well simply have agreed to something he should not have
> done. (If he’s already been paid, though, then of course that’s a problem.)
>
> I was flabbergasted at Sarfatti too! Maybe he wasn’t feeling well :)
>
> Very best as always –
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> —————-
> From:
> Reply-To:
> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 18:19:20 +0000
>
> Ron:
>
> What has caused this sea change in Sarfatti’s attitude towards the feasibility
> of RAM? To say I am shocked is to clearly understate the case. Flabbergasted
> fits the bill better. This amounts to a ringing endorsement from formerly a
> very harsh critic.
>
> John Hutchison has not even remotely come close to keeping his end of the
> simple science bargain to produce the rig component parts manual. Why he
> elected to do this to myself and the RAM Team only he knows.
>
> Very sad because I greatly admired him as an honorable person. We overpaid him
> to do this and it doesn’t make sense a twit. When the Team hears all the
> details his reputation will suffer greatly – though he really doesn’t seem to
> care.
>
> GN
>
> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>
> —–Original Message—–
> From: Jack Sarfatti
>
> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 10:25:41
> To:Gordon Novel
> Subject: Fwd: Your high voltage rig
>
>
>
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>
> 0000,0000,0000From:
> Jack Sarfatti
> 0000,0000,0000Date:
> September 27, 2007 7:57:10 PM PDT
>
> 0000,0000,0000To: Gordon
> Novel
> 0000,0000,0000Cc: Dan Smith
> Shoers liona
> 0000,0000,0000Subject: Your high
> voltage rig
>
>
>
> Hi Gordon
>
> If I can get Dan Smith to come out here in early December we will
> drive to Palm Springs to see you and I will introduce you to my friend
> Don who lives out there part of the year. Don was a Reagan banking
> economics advisor and a business associate of William Colby. Maybe Ken
> Sh can build your rig? If he thinks he can I certainly support
> someone providing the funds for Ken to do that. It’s worth trying to
> see what happens. :-)
>
>
>
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:56 pm
http://www.newfrontier.com/asheville/past-virato-live-2006.htm#04-29-2-06
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:56 pm
http://www.motionpictureprod.com/profile.html
October 23rd, 2007 at 12:01 am
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_QrSTlNnek
http://science.discovery.com/tv-schedules/series.html?paid=48.13776.120356.11352.3
http://www.bluebookfilms.com/
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2003/06/27.html
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5722629372257156662
ROB SIMONE writes: Hi Bill,
I was just at John’s apt/laboratory with a camera crew for new TV series i’m co-producing and hosting. We shot for over 7 hours, in High Def, and captured some extraordinary footage.
You may ask about the HGH bottle that floated in the air for the better part of 20 min. It was constant and controlled…..stunning…:)
It seemed to have ‘over-driven’ some of the components, I’m not sure if that is a common problem…
Rob Simone
October 23rd, 2007 at 12:26 am
http://hutchison2006.blogspot.com/
October 23rd, 2007 at 12:27 am
http://armsdump2007.blogspot.com/
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:04 am
http://caa-fox.blogspot.com/
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:07 am
they delete post here http://caa-fox.blogspot.com/ paris wrote in on that issues
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:08 am
ok this was not deleted so check out these posts these guy are realy biaased http://caa-fox.blogspot.com/ lets get there isp nos and sue them
December 13th, 2007 at 4:29 am
this guy did it in the 70’s, he was probably high and thought it would be a cool thing to see. plus he’s in vancouver, its a requirement to be high to live there.
January 29th, 2008 at 1:20 am
I want some a deep breath, god, makes his knees were bleeding.
February 27th, 2008 at 2:21 am
John Hutchison is simply a faker. The videos depicting levitation were clearly shot upside down. I too want to believe that the known rules of physics can be altered by human ingenuity but, the truth is, the only amazing thing Mr. Hutchinson has accomplished is creating deception on such a large scale. Put this lie to rest folks and move on with your lives. If you are not a skeptic, then you have been deceived by a fool. Don’t believe something because you prefer one outcome over another. Think like a scientist, ask questions, experiment, be objective. I have found that the most simple explanation is usually the correct one.
Shame on you JH for perpetuating this hoax. It is time for you to put the weed down and own up to your deception so no more serious thought or time is wasted on your absurd claims. You have done more harm than good so drop the crap about being a victim of a government conspiracy.
One more thing people, when writing anything that you want other people to take seriously, use spellcheck or a dictionary, most of the above comments read like they were written by 3rd graders. Forrest Gump had it right when he said “Stupid is as stupid does.”
March 7th, 2008 at 6:21 pm
Someone please take the guns away from the HIPPIE!
April 23rd, 2008 at 7:50 am
Clearly brooms have some type of special antigravity effect…
The space station solution to antigravity – just bring a broom…
and lets review Newtons Law too for non-broom matter – what goes up must, umm, stay up?
What a crock…
May 13th, 2008 at 7:28 pm
the apple from newton is currupted since years ago…
May 16th, 2008 at 7:40 am
Exceptions prove the rule, and wreck the budget.
— Miller
—————————————————————————————————-
http://maribradshaweg.easyjournal.com
July 8th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
You must excuse me,
I had enough, time to take my protein pills and put my helmet on.
The study of quantum physics has revealed plenty of information that is not congruent to the earlier “known” laws of physics. The question remains, just how deep are you willing to go into the rabbit hole?
“Vitae Es Morte’ Es Morte’ Es Vitae”
December 1st, 2008 at 8:15 pm
She fastened thatseventh button again. Cumming. Generally we have been girl rubbing clit too much higher.
September 25th, 2009 at 4:11 am
It should be 100 years invention
January 4th, 2010 at 11:23 am
Life is too short for bad beer. :-)
April 7th, 2010 at 5:15 am
I am a skeptic and I was also very interested in John Hutchinsons claims. Whether there fake or not, I started to think about what would constitute as real. I am starting to think, whats the purpose of watching a video of a claim, if there’s no scientist to observe the phenomena. If there isn’t any one there with a certain amount of credibility then we are always going to say the video is Fake! I think part of being a skeptic is to be a skeptic towards skeptics also. Were always going to figure out ways that WE could have replicated the video, but is that what is actually happening. So I am just wondering is it even possible to prove realness via video without the presence of credible scientist?
April 7th, 2010 at 5:17 am
I am a skeptic and I was also very interested in John Hutchinsons claims. Whether there fake or not, I started to think about what would constitute as real. I am starting to think, whats the purpose of watching a video of a claim, if there’s no scientist to observe the phenomena. If there isn’t any one there with a certain amount of credibility then we are always going to say the video is Fake! I think part of being a skeptic is to be a skeptic towards skeptics also. Were always going to figure out ways that WE could have replicated the video, but is that what is actually happening. So I am just wondering is it even possible to prove realness via video without the presence of credible scientist??
April 22nd, 2010 at 11:41 pm
The world is not millions of years old! It is only like 10 thousand years old at the most. God created the world and it just bugs me that evolution is completly fake but getting all the attention.
October 12th, 2010 at 3:10 am
hmm..turns out it might not be fake. Check this levitation out…it’s real and has been confirmed HUNDREDS of times.
http://jnaudin.free.fr/index.htm
February 14th, 2011 at 5:48 am
“Why don’t militaries have aircraft based on it?”
Who said they didn’t moron? You: they don’t have it because I haven’t seen it. You must be an atheist to use dumb logic like that. “I can’t see it derfur in not exizties.” K atheist moron. And like the US military is going to tell anyone they have antigravity let alone for the past 40 years. Idiot. “Hi we’ve had antigrav for the past 40 years and starships and let you all suffer for that long too.” Like psychopaths are going to tell the world they have such tech. No.
“Why doesn’t Air Canada have it?”
So if Air CANADA doesn’t have it, well that’s proof. HUH?! Punch yourself. “Why not Nigeria haved dit, um NIGgierians iz advancesid, they been kntry for long times now, er yer.” Yeah.
“Why don’t we have anti-gravity belts?” Can I stab you for wasting my time you infant?
“Anti-gravity cars? Anti-gravity spaceships?” Do you really need to repeat you idiot? Why not antigravity knives to fling at you for wasting our time?
“Am I supposed to believe that the scientists of the world,”
Dummy not everyone learns everything at once. How old are you idiot? You think like a 10 year old idiot.
“the militaries of the world,” I don’t think the Somali Islamic Militant Rebel Front (or whatever) will have anti-gravity any time soon unless some stupid aliens as dumb as you decide to tell them how to achieve it. And see above.
“the corporations of the world”
Okay you’re right: If McDonald’s doesn’t have it no one does.
“and all the other people thirsty for knowledge,”
Thirst for knowledge allows you to achieve anything in a few days, you’re so right. Die.
“technology,”
I’m so thirsty to fly around in my own stealth aicraft, have been for the past 5 years, damn how much longer must I thirst for this before it happens, cuz it will if I keep thirsting for it right? Can you please play with some lions in Africa? Or like, thirst for it please, and let them thirst for you too.
“weapons and transportation”
I’ma thirstin’ for a long range railgun with a gps guided bullet that can pinpointa IP addressas ofa moronas…
“solutions have some kind of bias against Hutchison?”
Bluh bluh bluh? Bluh bluh, bluh? If no one else can fig it out than the person who did must be a liar, just like Edward Leedskalnin and the builders of the pyramids. A true idiot. Please admit you’re an atheist. Only atheists are this dumb. Agnostics are super idiots too though.
“That there is some kind of vast conspiracy to suppress his work because…why?”
I am dee eviiiil terrorist Muslim man named Offolaishiq Hummarabi Burmabid, I wantz killz all you’ze Mericanza. I thiiiirst for antigravitiz technologies to make misiles go light speed into dumb Mericanz heads, specially diz skepticz idiots and atheist mooroonza. Hail Allaaaaaaah, alu akbrahsa skummi bummi spoodle doo spoodle doo shoobie doo shoobie doo shoobie doo! HAHAHA AT 9/11!
Hey lets share with Offo how to build an emp bomb too, cuz, cuz no one needs to keep secrets, secrets is dumb, right communist moron? Right.
http://eternian.wordpress.com you are a moron.
God bless you atheist who thinks secrets are stupid.