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		<title>By: archiwizacja danych</title>
		<link>http://socialtech.ca/ade/index.php/2005/06/more-on-hutchison/comment-page-1/#comment-487798</link>
		<dc:creator>archiwizacja danych</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 07:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting blog post. A few things i would like to contribute is that computer memory needs to be purchased if your computer can no longer cope with what you do by using it. One can set up two random access memory boards with 1GB each, in particular, but not certainly one of 1GB and one with 2GB. One should always check the maker&#039;s documentation for own PC to be sure what type of ram is needed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting blog post. A few things i would like to contribute is that computer memory needs to be purchased if your computer can no longer cope with what you do by using it. One can set up two random access memory boards with 1GB each, in particular, but not certainly one of 1GB and one with 2GB. One should always check the maker&#8217;s documentation for own PC to be sure what type of ram is needed.</p>
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		<title>By: DS</title>
		<link>http://socialtech.ca/ade/index.php/2005/06/more-on-hutchison/comment-page-1/#comment-209893</link>
		<dc:creator>DS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 04:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;a ring of transformers radially placed with a current running through them, creating magnetic flux which keeps the object afloat and spinning. it&#8217;s what the modern subways in shanghai and tokyo use&quot;

No, it&#039;s not.  There are no magnetic &#039;modren&#039; subways in Tokyo that use the method you describe.

Or anything like it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;a ring of transformers radially placed with a current running through them, creating magnetic flux which keeps the object afloat and spinning. it&#8217;s what the modern subways in shanghai and tokyo use&#8221;</p>
<p>No, it&#8217;s not.  There are no magnetic &#8216;modren&#8217; subways in Tokyo that use the method you describe.</p>
<p>Or anything like it.</p>
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		<title>By: S Levek</title>
		<link>http://socialtech.ca/ade/index.php/2005/06/more-on-hutchison/comment-page-1/#comment-185252</link>
		<dc:creator>S Levek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Levitron a small brilliant device patented from R.Harrigan in the early 90’s hovers in mid air for about 2 minutes only by using two permament magnets.
Is this now also pseudoscience? I don’t think so…&quot;

The original poster (ADE) never says levitation is pseudoscience. Perhaps the word levitation should have also been in quotations...  

&quot;His levitation “experiments” have these characteristics of pseudoscience:&quot;

See? Ade is saying these &#039;levitation experiements&#039; are pseudoscience. It&#039;s pseudoscience because Hutchinson is making these effects look like levitation, when its trickery. 

In fact, if any of this was real, then it would be in a scientific journal of some kind. How the hell can you expect to say &quot;it&#039;s true. trust me. look at the video&quot; and have people believe you? Hutchinson can make up as many stories as he likes about having scientists believeing his theory. But you know what? THIS IS NOT PROOF. THE VIDEOS ARE NOT PROOF. Proof is obtained when other scientists duplicate the results. If this was real, why the hell is this guy choosing not to publish his methods, materials... whatever. He got away with this BS in the 70s because there was no internet. It doesnt work so well today.

My ultimatum to Hutchinson: publish your findings, methods, etc etc. It is already known as the Hutchinson Effect, so you&#039;ll get your credit. What have you got to lose?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Levitron a small brilliant device patented from R.Harrigan in the early 90’s hovers in mid air for about 2 minutes only by using two permament magnets.<br />
Is this now also pseudoscience? I don’t think so…&#8221;</p>
<p>The original poster (ADE) never says levitation is pseudoscience. Perhaps the word levitation should have also been in quotations&#8230;  </p>
<p>&#8220;His levitation “experiments” have these characteristics of pseudoscience:&#8221;</p>
<p>See? Ade is saying these &#8216;levitation experiements&#8217; are pseudoscience. It&#8217;s pseudoscience because Hutchinson is making these effects look like levitation, when its trickery. </p>
<p>In fact, if any of this was real, then it would be in a scientific journal of some kind. How the hell can you expect to say &#8220;it&#8217;s true. trust me. look at the video&#8221; and have people believe you? Hutchinson can make up as many stories as he likes about having scientists believeing his theory. But you know what? THIS IS NOT PROOF. THE VIDEOS ARE NOT PROOF. Proof is obtained when other scientists duplicate the results. If this was real, why the hell is this guy choosing not to publish his methods, materials&#8230; whatever. He got away with this BS in the 70s because there was no internet. It doesnt work so well today.</p>
<p>My ultimatum to Hutchinson: publish your findings, methods, etc etc. It is already known as the Hutchinson Effect, so you&#8217;ll get your credit. What have you got to lose?</p>
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		<title>By: DL</title>
		<link>http://socialtech.ca/ade/index.php/2005/06/more-on-hutchison/comment-page-1/#comment-128307</link>
		<dc:creator>DL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 21:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>p.s. The guy who calls you an idiot should learn to spell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>p.s. The guy who calls you an idiot should learn to spell.</p>
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		<title>By: DL</title>
		<link>http://socialtech.ca/ade/index.php/2005/06/more-on-hutchison/comment-page-1/#comment-128305</link>
		<dc:creator>DL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 21:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The heck with Einstein!  General relativity only has about 3 experimentally reproduceable results--though the calculation of the orbit of Mercury is a particularly beautiful and convincing one.  Try Newton!  His work has held for over 300 years and is completely valid in its domain of applicability (not sub-atomic, for which you need QM, or large velocities, for which you need relativity).

This stuff is classic pseudo science!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The heck with Einstein!  General relativity only has about 3 experimentally reproduceable results&#8211;though the calculation of the orbit of Mercury is a particularly beautiful and convincing one.  Try Newton!  His work has held for over 300 years and is completely valid in its domain of applicability (not sub-atomic, for which you need QM, or large velocities, for which you need relativity).</p>
<p>This stuff is classic pseudo science!</p>
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		<title>By: P.Penn</title>
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		<dc:creator>P.Penn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 22:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, no 3-piece suit, lack of grooming, questionable appearance..what else?
Ah, scientific training, credentials, repeatability, applicability of the one time 
successful experiments. By the way, there is theory at the background, question is 
are the Hutchinson&quot;s experiments the only proof of it? Look in Wiki for more.
Regardless of the deficiencies according the the trained scientific minds , sure ,
carrier minded as well, one ought to keep their mind open to recognize new possibility.
That&#039;s right, as incredible and uncredited Hutchinson&#039;s claims may be, they deserve 
experiments record verification , not early ridicule and outright rejection.
Then and only then the jury is out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, no 3-piece suit, lack of grooming, questionable appearance..what else?<br />
Ah, scientific training, credentials, repeatability, applicability of the one time<br />
successful experiments. By the way, there is theory at the background, question is<br />
are the Hutchinson&#8221;s experiments the only proof of it? Look in Wiki for more.<br />
Regardless of the deficiencies according the the trained scientific minds , sure ,<br />
carrier minded as well, one ought to keep their mind open to recognize new possibility.<br />
That&#8217;s right, as incredible and uncredited Hutchinson&#8217;s claims may be, they deserve<br />
experiments record verification , not early ridicule and outright rejection.<br />
Then and only then the jury is out.</p>
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		<title>By: bALAnced PERCeptIOns</title>
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		<dc:creator>bALAnced PERCeptIOns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 09:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reply to c r swanson, what we seem to forget is this system is based on oil.  A change to a system based on a on zero point anti gravity energy et cetra (if at all possible) away from aeroplanes and fossil fuels would up be an upheaval in developed society never heard of before.  
One theory that is true is &#039;the need to know&#039; uttered by the military industrial complex. 

As regards to Hutchinson, look at who is a major funder of his research.  For the larger part he is a stooge.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Townsend_Brown</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to c r swanson, what we seem to forget is this system is based on oil.  A change to a system based on a on zero point anti gravity energy et cetra (if at all possible) away from aeroplanes and fossil fuels would up be an upheaval in developed society never heard of before.<br />
One theory that is true is &#8216;the need to know&#8217; uttered by the military industrial complex. </p>
<p>As regards to Hutchinson, look at who is a major funder of his research.  For the larger part he is a stooge.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Townsend_Brown" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Townsend_Brown</a></p>
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		<title>By: perlito g. cabauatan</title>
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		<dc:creator>perlito g. cabauatan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dear mr hutch, may i suggest that u use ur talents to find a process that will make polymers biodegradeable so that our planet will b cleaner and greener. hope u succeed in this endeavor.let all scientifically minded individuals strive for tne sake of our ecology. tnx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dear mr hutch, may i suggest that u use ur talents to find a process that will make polymers biodegradeable so that our planet will b cleaner and greener. hope u succeed in this endeavor.let all scientifically minded individuals strive for tne sake of our ecology. tnx</p>
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		<title>By: #1sKEpTIc</title>
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		<dc:creator>#1sKEpTIc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 03:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know the illusion of knowledge, is the greatest challenge for great minds to overcome...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know the illusion of knowledge, is the greatest challenge for great minds to overcome&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: C R Swanson</title>
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		<dc:creator>C R Swanson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2007 02:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had somehow been blissfully unaware of Mr Hutchison and his &quot;theories&quot;. I&#039;m not sure how, but I rather wish I could go back in time and find a way to keep myself unaware of them. Perhaps one of his associates might have a time machine that works as well as his anti-grav device? Or perhaps could build something else useful? Like a sarcasm detector? (Oh, a sarcasm detector! Oh, that&#039;s REAL useful!)

I happened across these &quot;theories&quot; last night... well, early this morning... while chanel surfing. Unwilling to watch a documentry on Jonestown or to see Anderson Cooper talk about murders in the inner city and how they&#039;re being ignored because the media isn&#039;t covering them (ah, nothing like a little media navel-gazing), I flipped through the channels until I came across Disocvery Science. Ah, I thought. This is a good channel. This should be fun! I like this station!

Ah... fool that I was...

The videos I saw did, admitedly, distract me from the sort of Internet surfing that bachelors tend to do at 2am on a Saturday (Wikipedia browsing of course... why, what did you think I meant?). I thought it looked pretty cool and interesting! I thought, hey, someone has a camera and they&#039;re filming stuff upside down! Neat... ish... I guess...

Then along came Mr Hutchison. I looked upon him and decided that I was relieved that Canada is not the perfect country I thought it was. In addition to Celene Dion, they&#039;ve vomited this fellow up onto the world stage.

I won&#039;t bash on his personal appearance too much. Ad hominem (sp?) attacks don&#039;t much do it for me. However, I will say that if *I* was appearing on TV to defend some claims I knew other people might not take seriously, I&#039;d damn well make sure I got my hands on a three-piece suit!

But I digress.

I have no real scientific training. I majored in logic and English Lit in college (thus I work in tech support). But I do know how to think, and I&#039;ve watched every episode of &quot;Bullshit!&quot; to date (well, except for the &quot;Holier Than Thou&quot; one. Showtime doesn&#039;t seem to repeat it, and the rest of the 3rd season was fairly disapointing to me, so I haven&#039;t bought the DVDs yet). I&#039;d like to think I have at least some basic sense as well.

So when I saw these vids, impressive though they (slightly), were, and when I listened to Mr Hutchison and his claims, I thought to myself, well, this is pretty simple. All we have to do is replicate the effect and that&#039;s the end of the debate. However, then he started going off about how the CIA and Canadian Intelligence (which I hadn&#039;t even really been aware there was a Canadian Intelligence service. Of course there must be. How else to keep the seals from rising up?), had conspired against him and removed some of his equipment, I knew we were onto a total turkey.

One of the things I&#039;ve learned over the years is that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. In the case of Mr Hutchison he hasn&#039;t offered ANY evidence. All he is are his rather easily duplicated videos and a slightly interesting story.

They also showed on this... er... show... him making batteries that will last &quot;forever&quot;. This is likely true for a given value of forever. The only thing I&#039;ll say about them is that I&#039;m sure they function as well as all other perpetual motion devices.

Now to respond to &quot;To Impossible is Nothing&quot;...

You forget to mention one rather salient point. The Wright brothers were capable of reproducing their feat. Thus we have airplanes, jets, the space program and, sadly, Sea-Tac International (as Douglas Adams once observed, there&#039;s a reason no language ever coined the phrase &quot;pretty as an airport&quot;). The existence of vidoes prove only the existence of cameras (well, and video tape, some lights, a set, a photographer and a few other things, but let&#039;s not belabor the point). If Mr Hutchison wishes to be taken seriously, let him step up. Let him prove what he claims.

Otherwise let&#039;s relagate him to the ashbin of science history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had somehow been blissfully unaware of Mr Hutchison and his &#8220;theories&#8221;. I&#8217;m not sure how, but I rather wish I could go back in time and find a way to keep myself unaware of them. Perhaps one of his associates might have a time machine that works as well as his anti-grav device? Or perhaps could build something else useful? Like a sarcasm detector? (Oh, a sarcasm detector! Oh, that&#8217;s REAL useful!)</p>
<p>I happened across these &#8220;theories&#8221; last night&#8230; well, early this morning&#8230; while chanel surfing. Unwilling to watch a documentry on Jonestown or to see Anderson Cooper talk about murders in the inner city and how they&#8217;re being ignored because the media isn&#8217;t covering them (ah, nothing like a little media navel-gazing), I flipped through the channels until I came across Disocvery Science. Ah, I thought. This is a good channel. This should be fun! I like this station!</p>
<p>Ah&#8230; fool that I was&#8230;</p>
<p>The videos I saw did, admitedly, distract me from the sort of Internet surfing that bachelors tend to do at 2am on a Saturday (Wikipedia browsing of course&#8230; why, what did you think I meant?). I thought it looked pretty cool and interesting! I thought, hey, someone has a camera and they&#8217;re filming stuff upside down! Neat&#8230; ish&#8230; I guess&#8230;</p>
<p>Then along came Mr Hutchison. I looked upon him and decided that I was relieved that Canada is not the perfect country I thought it was. In addition to Celene Dion, they&#8217;ve vomited this fellow up onto the world stage.</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t bash on his personal appearance too much. Ad hominem (sp?) attacks don&#8217;t much do it for me. However, I will say that if *I* was appearing on TV to defend some claims I knew other people might not take seriously, I&#8217;d damn well make sure I got my hands on a three-piece suit!</p>
<p>But I digress.</p>
<p>I have no real scientific training. I majored in logic and English Lit in college (thus I work in tech support). But I do know how to think, and I&#8217;ve watched every episode of &#8220;Bullshit!&#8221; to date (well, except for the &#8220;Holier Than Thou&#8221; one. Showtime doesn&#8217;t seem to repeat it, and the rest of the 3rd season was fairly disapointing to me, so I haven&#8217;t bought the DVDs yet). I&#8217;d like to think I have at least some basic sense as well.</p>
<p>So when I saw these vids, impressive though they (slightly), were, and when I listened to Mr Hutchison and his claims, I thought to myself, well, this is pretty simple. All we have to do is replicate the effect and that&#8217;s the end of the debate. However, then he started going off about how the CIA and Canadian Intelligence (which I hadn&#8217;t even really been aware there was a Canadian Intelligence service. Of course there must be. How else to keep the seals from rising up?), had conspired against him and removed some of his equipment, I knew we were onto a total turkey.</p>
<p>One of the things I&#8217;ve learned over the years is that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. In the case of Mr Hutchison he hasn&#8217;t offered ANY evidence. All he is are his rather easily duplicated videos and a slightly interesting story.</p>
<p>They also showed on this&#8230; er&#8230; show&#8230; him making batteries that will last &#8220;forever&#8221;. This is likely true for a given value of forever. The only thing I&#8217;ll say about them is that I&#8217;m sure they function as well as all other perpetual motion devices.</p>
<p>Now to respond to &#8220;To Impossible is Nothing&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>You forget to mention one rather salient point. The Wright brothers were capable of reproducing their feat. Thus we have airplanes, jets, the space program and, sadly, Sea-Tac International (as Douglas Adams once observed, there&#8217;s a reason no language ever coined the phrase &#8220;pretty as an airport&#8221;). The existence of vidoes prove only the existence of cameras (well, and video tape, some lights, a set, a photographer and a few other things, but let&#8217;s not belabor the point). If Mr Hutchison wishes to be taken seriously, let him step up. Let him prove what he claims.</p>
<p>Otherwise let&#8217;s relagate him to the ashbin of science history.</p>
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