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		<title>By: Monte Pfingsten</title>
		<link>http://socialtech.ca/ade/index.php/2005/12/choose-your-stench/comment-page-1/#comment-415410</link>
		<dc:creator>Monte Pfingsten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Oct 2011 14:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ade</title>
		<link>http://socialtech.ca/ade/index.php/2005/12/choose-your-stench/comment-page-1/#comment-425</link>
		<dc:creator>Ade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2006 17:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just read an interesting piece by Richard Gwyn, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&amp;c=Article&amp;cid=1135941240926&amp;call_pageid=970599119419&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;check it&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;So this is the state of Confederation: A Quebec that has no detectable interest in the rest of the country. An Alberta that has no need to be interested. An Ontario turned inward and self-interested. A British Columbia that has always been detached from the others behind its mountains. And a Newfoundland, highly likely to soon to cease being a have-not province because of off-shore oil and that has historically always been detached.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I agree that a minority Conservative government will have serious difficulties governing.  If they do form a government, which looms as possible if not likely, I think their honeymoon will be brief.  A snarled up and fractious government plus their own inevitable scandals - what government avoids scandal? - and Canadians will be back to cynically bashing the feds.

The article I just linked to above talks about the most important undercurrent of this entire election, national unity.  I think we are heading for a crucial time in this country&#039;s history, where Canadians across the nation make up their minds about whether or not we share a destiny.  With their emphasis on power being shifted from the federal government to the provinces, a Conservative government may change the landscape of federation considerably.

Then again, as I write that, I think about what it&#039;s saying - that those in power will work to lessen their power.  The lessons of human nature say the opposite is likely.  If the Conservatives intend to keep this country together, how will they do it?  Can they do it?  The province most likely to bail, as always, is Quebec, and their liberal social attitudes conflict with the Conservatives.  But the other province to keep an eye on is Alberta.  If the Conservatives win, Albertans will be overjoyed.

Lots to consider, that&#039;s for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just read an interesting piece by Richard Gwyn, <a href="http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&amp;c=Article&amp;cid=1135941240926&amp;call_pageid=970599119419" rel="nofollow">check it</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>So this is the state of Confederation: A Quebec that has no detectable interest in the rest of the country. An Alberta that has no need to be interested. An Ontario turned inward and self-interested. A British Columbia that has always been detached from the others behind its mountains. And a Newfoundland, highly likely to soon to cease being a have-not province because of off-shore oil and that has historically always been detached.</p></blockquote>
<p>I agree that a minority Conservative government will have serious difficulties governing.  If they do form a government, which looms as possible if not likely, I think their honeymoon will be brief.  A snarled up and fractious government plus their own inevitable scandals &#8211; what government avoids scandal? &#8211; and Canadians will be back to cynically bashing the feds.</p>
<p>The article I just linked to above talks about the most important undercurrent of this entire election, national unity.  I think we are heading for a crucial time in this country&#8217;s history, where Canadians across the nation make up their minds about whether or not we share a destiny.  With their emphasis on power being shifted from the federal government to the provinces, a Conservative government may change the landscape of federation considerably.</p>
<p>Then again, as I write that, I think about what it&#8217;s saying &#8211; that those in power will work to lessen their power.  The lessons of human nature say the opposite is likely.  If the Conservatives intend to keep this country together, how will they do it?  Can they do it?  The province most likely to bail, as always, is Quebec, and their liberal social attitudes conflict with the Conservatives.  But the other province to keep an eye on is Alberta.  If the Conservatives win, Albertans will be overjoyed.</p>
<p>Lots to consider, that&#8217;s for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: alevo</title>
		<link>http://socialtech.ca/ade/index.php/2005/12/choose-your-stench/comment-page-1/#comment-424</link>
		<dc:creator>alevo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2006 15:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imagine, for a moment, how a minority Conservative government might function. The Liberals had their turn at cobbling together minority-status voting coalitions for the passage of money bills and sensitive legislation. Would a Conservative government fair as well? I suspect not. Unless, as mentioned, they play nice - really tone down the volume on contentious social and tax policy. I don&#039;t see the NDP or Liberals being a willing participant in supporting, for instance, a Tory budget (if not for practicality than at least for principle). It is likely that a Harper minority would need the Bloq vote in the House of Commons, but even that is not a long-term strategy for building a strong repore with Canadian voters in Ontario. I don&#039;t really have a point to make. Rather, I am thinking out loud. Any thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imagine, for a moment, how a minority Conservative government might function. The Liberals had their turn at cobbling together minority-status voting coalitions for the passage of money bills and sensitive legislation. Would a Conservative government fair as well? I suspect not. Unless, as mentioned, they play nice &#8211; really tone down the volume on contentious social and tax policy. I don&#8217;t see the NDP or Liberals being a willing participant in supporting, for instance, a Tory budget (if not for practicality than at least for principle). It is likely that a Harper minority would need the Bloq vote in the House of Commons, but even that is not a long-term strategy for building a strong repore with Canadian voters in Ontario. I don&#8217;t really have a point to make. Rather, I am thinking out loud. Any thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://socialtech.ca/ade/index.php/2005/12/choose-your-stench/comment-page-1/#comment-423</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2006 05:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t get me wrong; I&#039;ve no intention to vote Conservative. Canada is bleeding under the Liberals, though, and even if the CPC is not a tourniquet, at least it&#039;s a different kind of hurt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong; I&#8217;ve no intention to vote Conservative. Canada is bleeding under the Liberals, though, and even if the CPC is not a tourniquet, at least it&#8217;s a different kind of hurt.</p>
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		<title>By: Ade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jan 2006 21:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think what I read a few weeks ago on another blog sums up what you&#039;re saying best.  I no longer know where I read this so I will paraphrase:

&quot;Voting in the Conservatives to punish the Liberals for corruption is like putting a 20% tariff on American fruits and vegetables to punish the US for the softwood lumber dispute.  It might hurt them, but we&#039;re still the ones that will have to pay.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what I read a few weeks ago on another blog sums up what you&#8217;re saying best.  I no longer know where I read this so I will paraphrase:</p>
<p>&#8220;Voting in the Conservatives to punish the Liberals for corruption is like putting a 20% tariff on American fruits and vegetables to punish the US for the softwood lumber dispute.  It might hurt them, but we&#8217;re still the ones that will have to pay.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://socialtech.ca/ade/index.php/2005/12/choose-your-stench/comment-page-1/#comment-419</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2005 22:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Liberals seriously need a time out. If they keep winning elections, they&#039;ve got no reason to reform, and every reason to continue being unbelievably arrogant. Despite my intense dislike of Harper, I&#039;m hoping for a Conservative win simply on the grounds that change, for better or worse, is absolutely needed. Sure, I&#039;d rather Layton than Harper, but in this election that just isn&#039;t going to happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Liberals seriously need a time out. If they keep winning elections, they&#8217;ve got no reason to reform, and every reason to continue being unbelievably arrogant. Despite my intense dislike of Harper, I&#8217;m hoping for a Conservative win simply on the grounds that change, for better or worse, is absolutely needed. Sure, I&#8217;d rather Layton than Harper, but in this election that just isn&#8217;t going to happen.</p>
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